Expert fly casters drift using both techniques of translation and rotation. The technique of angular drifting is most obvious when you see Lefty Kreh cast. Note the two illustrations of rod drift below, and reexamine that illustration of rod creep above and you will see that there has been both translation and rotational rod creep.
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Below is a slow motion elbow forward cast by Cris Korich. The slow motion cast below by Chris also is an excellent example of drifting the rod on the backcast to gain a greater forward rod stroke. Watch very closely at 4 seconds and 27 seconds for the stop on the backcast. At 5 seconds and 28 seconds, Chris DRIFTS the fly rod with both translation moving the hand, and therefore the rod back and rotation tilting the rod tip back. For more reading, here are a few articles on Rod Creep and Rod Drift.
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Regards, Silver "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought" Send PM. Ard , littledavid thanked for this post. Join Date May Posts Hope I get Creep can be back or forward. Moving rod in opposite direction before line unrolls. An extreme case like starting forward cast before loop lf backcast is behind you.
Will land pile of lin on or near you. Same with backcast when false casting. To soon disaster. On the edge but still to soon. And fly changing direction almost instantly will sound like crack of whip. Believe directional change is faster than speed of sound. Hence the crack. Slowing down stroke timing. Even all. I find the word drift misleading. Maybe a better way of describing what is called creep.
Drift or following line is to a degree part of every cast or false cast.
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I use it and slow start for longer last look around. But line should not be falling on backcast. To long before forward cast. Instant tailing problem. So the amount of drift will vary from one to another. But is somewhat necessary to unroll line. On the surface creep is no good and some degree of drift is.
But as with drift being used. Creep can be used in an effective manor also. Opposite that of drift. I've grabed at line , hauled on it, about everything to put on brakes in middle of cast.
Imparting creep before cast is made is easier. Slow start to cast. Any pause in motion neglects prior as rod starts to unload. Then loads again to throw line. And line thrown. As could be wanted at any moment. Anything other than fast tip action will probably need line haul on second part of stroke. A little more skill involved. But still easy to shorten cast while in the middle of it. Re: Fly Casting Creep and Drift PC, Remember that creep is: Unintentional Slow enough not to propel the line, and Almost always a fault Can occur at any time prior to the initiation of the cast, not just when the line is unrolling.
If you intentionally reduce the size of the casting arc, that's not classified as creep. If you mean it, it's not creep unless you're showing someone what creep is and why it's a bad thing. Starting the cast early and inducing a whip-crack is not creep. It's a timing error. Creep occurs before the cast is initiated. There are very few situations where creep is beneficial.
The fact that it's unintentional by definition means it's usually a fault. The time I might use a creeping action is after a strong back cast into a tail wind which itself required a long casting arc but the subsequent forward cast needs less power due the tail wind. I need to reduce the casting arc prior to that forward stroke or I'll get a wide loop. The term drift is not misleading.
It has a definition in fly casting and it's already known. It is no more misleading than terms like "casting arc", "rotation" or "translation". That you are already using drift on most casts doesn't mean you need a different term for it. It just means you now have a name for what you're doing. Drift is: Almost always intentional Desriable when aiming to increase casting distance a good cure for creep.
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One of the best ways to prevent creep in a student is to show them drift and ask them to do it. In advanced casters, drift is used to increase the size of the casting stroke, which is required to cast longer lines.click here
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One situation where I use it is after shooting line into my back cast which required a relatively small casting arc and the next forward cast is suddenly carrying much more line. Drift is required to provide the required larger casting arc. Good casters drift often. Bad casters creep often.
Cheers, Graeme. I just can't resist getting a chuckle of the way people try to verbalize unnecessary misinterpretations of conceptions they themselves have yet to grasp the root causation of. Teach to your students intellect, they brought all the understanding they will need, if you grasp and present the information correctly. Learn to define by understanding, teach to the person, not the equipment. Stop telling the rod what not to do, it can't hear you. Rods will not "Do the work for you.